in the great freenode exodus of 2021, all the open-source projects and general nerd hangout channels will flock to...

To me, the main point of this poll is that Gitter was created for exactly this use and nobody will ever use it.
I was talking to one of the founders, Andrew, a few years ago (after being acquired by Gitlab, but before being sold again to Element/Matrix) and he was lamenting about how hard it is to make people show up, no matter how perfect the features were.
You can build it, but they won't come. They'll just scratch on in the obscure, hard-to-use conversation pits because the gravity well is too much to overcome.

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@zpojqwfejwfhiunz frankly I voted for my worst fear, because I think it's the most likely

@zpojqwfejwfhiunz Why isn't "IRC" on that list? There's libera, there's oftc.

@alrs because this websight only allows 4 options and that was the 6th thing I thought of

/connect, you'll see that the channels are already filling back up. IRC people are not going to move to Discord, ever. That's #normcore chat for non-technical people under 20.

@alrs @zpojqwfejwfhiunz
*one IRC network splits in half thanks to some drama*
"welp, IRC is dead I guess"

@slowfallinward @alrs if Undernet/DALnet taught me anything, it's to pick a side and ride the split because communities can and will evaporate rapidly, even if they feel so solid today

@zpojqwfejwfhiunz @alrs I'm not sure what you're saying with this, though I'm definitely not sticking around freenode for anything but the channels that don't move or actively using their services except where I must. Anyway I'm not sure freenode itself even was "a community", I don't think the little channel I was in for group buying tea had anything to do with FreeBSD, or that again with OpenFPGA, etc.

@zpojqwfejwfhiunz Someone will invent yet another new, privacy-invading, centralized chat platform with a glitzy marketing push, and it will be the only thing that has ever existed for all the popular hackers by next Thursday.

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@zpojqwfejwfhiunz ...another irc net. That's what I am currently seeing.

@zpojqwfejwfhiunz I liked gitter for the exactly one programming community that I participated in who chose to use it as their primary community platform (



I know it’s a dirty word and all, but minus a unicorn here and there, having the best features doesn’t attract people.

@zpojqwfejwfhiunz Matrix is really good. HOPE last year really changed my mind on it.

@LilFluff @zpojqwfejwfhiunz Sadly, you're likely correct.

Too many people fail to realize that there is more to the Internet than the Web. Worse: when you're used to JS heavy sites causing your 8 core laptop's fan to spin up, you accept that as "normal." there was a forum I liked in the early 00s that was awesome because it was really a usenet server with a simple web interface thrown on top. Which meant I just added it as a server on the newsreader I used at the time and only ever used the web interface if I wasn't at my desktop.

@zpojqwfejwfhiunz #emacs will stay on irc I guess. Anything, which doesn't have a good client inside of emacs, is totally out of consideration anyway.
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