@TheGibson I know The Social Network had some inaccuracies but then you read stuff like this and go 🤔

@TheGibson that article made me consider several things:

- Facebook most likely found his location by geolocating nearby WiFi MAC addresses. Creepy.

- Despite its success the Facebook site *is* a temporary blip on the radar. To survive as a company they have to branch out to other, unrelated industries.

Unfortunately (for them) they think like a typical silicon valley tech company and invest in stuff like more social, ads and fringe products like the Oculus.

They can't think "traditional".

@polychrome @thegibson They've bought sooo much though. How many people have you heard say "I'm quitting Facebook and just using WhatsApp" not realizing FB owns WhatsApp, Instagram .. like everything .. They've bought so much of their competition.

In a way it's really good, because I don't think another monolith can take them on at this point. I think the future has to be distributed/federated. Unlike when Diaspora was launched, it's easier to run hosted services now.

@djsumdog @polychrome @thegibson Yahoo bought a lot of things too. Now they're owned by AOL, which in turn is owned by Time Warner & Oath.

Most friends & family I talk to now say things like "I don't use Facebook much anymore". While that's not the same as deleting their account or the mobile apps, it doesn't bode well for the company's future.

@bobstechsite @djsumdog @TheGibson Oh man. An OATH / Facebook merger would make things even more.. well, bad.

@polychrome @djsumdog @thegibson "before you can login to your profile on this new device, can you just agree to all our ads, otherwise you'll have to repeatedly opt-out of optional tracking and then manually opt-out for each of our many hundreds of third party companies"

@thegibson You know, the thing that pisses me off the most?

It's not even Facebook lying about collecting that info and giving it to other companies.

It's the whole thing where people have been noticing weird shit going on with ads for the past decade, where everything's creepily accurate, and the whole thing where the whole fucking world was gaslit into "oh, no, it's just a coincidence that you got an ad about something you talked about in an unrelated private conversation"

@bhtooefr
I'll bet a lot of us just completely missed that by running adblockers so we were still getting spied on, but not seeing the result.
@thegibson

@nobody @bhtooefr

Yeah, like the multiple times I've been shovel brigaded for saying you can test it for yourself in myriad ways...

Just like patriot act, and snowden... sometimes we just have to wait for vindication.

@nobody

> not seeing the result

yup. yet another, different kind of digital divide, between those of us who offered at least a little resistance to the aggregation, and those with a much 'simpler' consumer mindset of the defaults, delegating all these details to Facebook et al

@bhtooefr @TheGibson

@bhtooefr had a discussion back and forth with some people who say we need more laws, genpop is too dumb to know privacy, need nannystate @thegibson

@bhtooefr @thegibson we've nudged many an alexa/ok-google/siri/cortana by talking shit. can't believe ppl have that in their house. same with enabling the voice dictation on a phone. #dumbshitshow

@TheGibson article^^^

'...That is how Sandberg and Zuckerberg are able to rationalize their lies: because they believe the future of the entire company is dependent on maintaining the careful fiction that users have control over their data when they don't...'

@thegibson I almost busted a suture laughing at the headline alone.

Sending you the doctor bill.

@mwlucas

Who is bill?

What is his specialty?

And havent you heard laughter is the best medicine?

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