Microsoft's lost that lovin' feelin'.
The Verge: Microsoft to ‘warn’ Windows 10 users not to install Chrome or Firefox.
Same as the old Microsoft... :)
@thegibson @bob I mean, there are shitloads of folks there who have been there for 20+ years so... yeah both good and bad, although lots of good ones have left and returned... maybe someone on the Windows+Edge team is feeling desperate now that it’s not a core business unit. Desperation makes people do dumb shit.
@TheGibson Didn’t Microsoft already get in trouble years ago for doing similar with IE… or did they ‘forget’
@StephenLB I seem to remember something like that. :)
Not under the current admin.
Oh, I thought we exported it to you during the Bush administration.
@TheGibson holy shit, they were already so pushy about Edge
@TheGibson I knew we shoulda broken them up. Everyone knew it. But we were too fucking cowardly.
@TheGibson Does this mean they finally made a decent version of IE?
More of a statement of impossibility than a question...
@thegibson Maximum desperate!
@thegibson The leap from here to just refusing to install is pretty narrow.
Why do people run Windows again?
@Shufei in my case I have some work requirements and clients that basically require it... but I can always do it from a utility VM.
The end result is a fresh generation of adults not knowing anything else. The Internet is slowing this a bit
But on a technical front, the office tools really don’t have much competition. E.G. Excel and LibreOffice Calc can’t even be compared on equal footing
Unless something else is 100% compatible and guaranteed to preserve content and formatting, I don’t see it being replaced with something else even if it’s as capable (which I don’t think exists either)
@cypnk @Shadejackrabbit @Shufei @TheGibson I think a lot of Excel's capabilities that are beyond LibreOffice Calc's mostly involve things that should probably be done in a database and not a spreadsheet program, but people do them anyway in Excel. I know we're guilty of plenty of that in our office.
Calc's approach might be actually be better in theory, but in the real world we don't want to re-do our entire process flow and retrain users, so we stick with MS Office despite my best efforts.
They’ve built all kinds of business logic into Excel (with encouragement from MS) and you basically get complicated DB functionality with lookup tables and such
To be fair though, people tend to use the tools they know
@thegibson Well they make advertising money off people using Edge, so of course they want to push people to use it.
They show ads in the "New Tab" pane, and when the browser first starts.
@thegibson Ubuntu is easy to use and has broad hardware compatibility and Steam support these days. Screw Microsoft
@thegibson Windows 7 Forever.
@thegibson So desperate!
I don't like the Chrome monopoly as much as they do, but this isn't how you fight it. Maybe changing Edge's logo would've done more to help, but I think it might be too late for that.
@TheGibson wtf Microsoft
A bunch of technomancers in the fediverse. Keep it fairly clean please. This arcology is for all who wash up upon it's digital shore.