Would you watch a livestream focused on Apple II vintage computing?

It would be a very small hangout kind of livestream.

@thamesynne I think “not really my thing” fits, if livestreams aren’t your thing at all. :)

@maddiefuzz ok, that's what i chose - but i would avidly read the post-game write-up, if that helps!

@maddiefuzz (or the post-coding write-up and source code. if i watched livestreams, i'd be saying "yes, do both". sorry, i didn't mean to inadvertently suggest "please play games" ;-)

@maddiefuzz oh cool! i remember checking this out when you first posted it ;-)

@thamesynne was that you that asked for the link? 🙃 sorry, that thread got a lot of attention.

@maddiefuzz @thamesynne I see you are looking for help in including image data directly into the executable. You were saying that you get I/O errors if you tried.

I'm curious, how did you try? I'm thinking if you left the program origin at $8000, and tried to include 8K of binary data, that would have pushed your executable to overwrite memory starting at $A000, which I think might be where Applesoft Disk BASIC resides on a 48K system.

I'm just wondering, never having done Apple II development, if you set the origin to $6000, include the binary data, then place the code after that (so that the code still starts at $8000), if that would work. Might be worth a shot at some point in the future.

@vertigo @thamesynne Your intuition is correct. 4am helped me debug this issue, but I guess I didn’t document it in the git repository.

I set the origin to $6000 and it works fine. Although I placed the code before the binary data, and made sure execution never flows into the data portion. I didn’t try accessing the data though, which does seem trickier if I put it after. I just verified the I/O error was resolved. I was clobbering something between $8000 and $A090 ish

If the code is after the binary data, I’m not sure how you would start execution at the code portion. I naively would guess it has something to do with my linker segment configuration, but I’m just guessing.

@maddiefuzz but also, "This is highly dependent on my mental bandwidth and often I just don't have it in me for anything intense".

@socketwench For me or you? I feel this post might go both ways.

@cat I have a video with drive seek sounds I took today, but alas, it’s slightly too big to upload here.

@emacsen Was only able to add four options. Voting doesn’t establish an obligation, just gauging interest and preference. :)


Then my suggestion might be live stream based on vintage computing but if you do it, then please also add some information on the things you stream, a little trivia with our Math Blaster or Oregon Trail, or whatever it is you're showcasing.

You're also reminding me that I wrote a game on the Apple 2. I think it was a card game. I remember the graphics mode but that's it.

@emacsen Oregon Trail was lined up in my head as one of the first things I might play.

That sounds cool. :) Do you remember, low or high res graphics mode?


For the record, when I did this, the Apple II/e wasn't "vintage computing". It was a little out of date, for sure, but not "vintage".

I don't remember what mode it was, other than I had a small text area at the bottom of the screen too.

Do you know about the story of tron and protected memory?

@emacsen I don’t know the story of tron and protected memory, at least it isn’t ringing a bell.

You could have been in lo or high res graphics mode, both support a graphics + text mode, which is just an additional memory soft switch you hit when switching modes.

(I’ve been dealing with this a lot recently.. it’s fresh in my mind.)


Games I played back then which you may know (or not!):

Math Blaster
Jungle Hunt
Reading Rabbit
Mickey's Space Adventure
Agent USA (though I played on Commodore)
Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego
King's Quest
Pinball Construction Set (I played on PC but such an innovative game)

I also have a vague recollection of something like a magazine called Scholastic, and they'd occasionally come with sort of mini-computer games.

@emacsen That’s an amazing story, and it’s giving me ideas for things I could recreate on our Apple II+

The funny thing is, a lot of those games were remade in the 90s and I played them in grade school on old Windows computers.

I haven’t played a lot of them on older hardware, though. I’m familiar with King’s Quest, but we only have a monochrome CRT currently.

@maddiefuzz make VODs if you do! I would probably watch, but I almost never watch anything live

Friendica lacks the functionality to let me vote, but very yes. Either or. I love vintage tech, but don't have money to throw around on it, so I have to live vicariously through others.

@maddiefuzz did you decide on a particular streaming platform/site/software/contraption/whatever?

@jns I have it all set up, for now it’s owncast as the streaming platform, but that’s easy to change.

Today I’m slowly digging through boxes looking for my mic.. which I’m not sure I’m going to use anyway. Gonna do some more overlay work, might be doing a stream tonight.

@maddiefuzz Fantastic! I can't wait to see it!! - although depending on when, I may or may not be able to attend evenings- are you planning to keep recordings available in case we miss it?

@jns Ah, I’m not sure at this point. The idea was to do something casual as opposed to Actual Livestreaming(tm), but I might.

I’m trying to find a free solution for not liking the sound of my voice yet wanting to use a mic, though.

@maddiefuzz - jackd + jack_rack into obs...jack-rack has all the EQ's combs and pitch shifting thingies one might want. You could make yourself sound like pretty much anything! :)

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