I am 98.2% certain that I will -NOT- be using my

As such I will be willing to sell it to someone that will do active work with it (dev, testing, etc...). The project *needs* people to *participate*, not just sit on hardware.

Basically I would like to recoup my cost, and that's about it. Will even throw in free shipping within the US.

What's your dealbreaker? What feature will you need for it to be something you want to use?


There are 2 or MAYBE 3 android apps that are soft-requirements. As I understand it SailfishOS -should- support that effort. But honestly I feel like the phone would be better off in the hands of someone that will contribute. I would only be using it as a "daily driver"

(Life360, Waze, GoogleFi)

@banjofox Please explain yourself. I'm guessing it's just not a good experience?


- The one I got has not even left the box
- I do not have time/skill/patience to test/develop/debug with it
- Because of $$ reasons I shouldn't have bought one in the first place, but I REALLY liked the idea, and forgot that I'd previously bought other "dev-kit" phones and never did anything with them in the past.

@banjofox I'm tempted to take the offer, but would like to replace my current phone, which has some touch screen issues.
For now that would probably mean running a version of Android (as wrong as that may seem, but the phone still has man advantages even with that and provides a clear upgrade path).
Do you know whether there's anything available currently? Besides: What would shipping to Germany cost?


Not sure how much DE shipping would be. From what I've heard from others (i.e @djsundog ) the phones are not /quite/ ready as full replacements

@banjofox @solarkraft also, Germany is the one country that hasn't allowed any pinephones in yet due to a lack of certification and despite being marked as test units and such. but yes, the software has a ways to go before you can use it as a linux daily driver, and a bit farther beyond that before it runs android apps as far as I can tell

@banjofox @solarkraft or at least wait until a few of the direct-to-purchaser shipments manage to cross the border, I'd think

@djsundog @solarkraft

Aww... I was hoping to practice some tradecraft and dead letter boxen :)

@banjofox @solarkraft hey, it's y'all's transaction - cloak and dagger it as much as pleases ya ;)



Based on what I am reading (no direct experience), there are still enough bugs to keep it as a dev-kit, not a "final product".

Standard caveat: Your mileage may vary

@banjofox hey, I will 100% buy it from you if you’d like, I really want one, though I will probably not be doing any dev on it just testing and bugs and filing issues.

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